Later in his life he served as a bodyguard , minder and manager to the Pet Shop Boys , appearing on What we represent and what fascinates all these artists is simple: were the unity of the opposite, the outsider united.. Physically, the drive used to be alcohol that fuelled this anti-social behaviour. And the recent rash of hooligan memoirs such as The Football Factory and England Away has produced almost 100 kick-lit books name-checking more than 150 hooligan firms; two of the publishing houses dominating the hit-and-tell genre, Headhunter Books and Pennant Books, are run by former hooligans: Chelseas Martin King and West Hams Cass Pennant. Some are as old as 65. Wanker you know f**k all you werent about with the yid firm otherwise you would know how from early 80s to mid 90s you did nothing, we loved playing you as we used to love walking down your High road untouched & giving it to you, also from around 82/83 you were scared to come into the Northbank once we got ourselves a good mob your bullying days were over and you couldnt stand it & yes we did give it to all the other London firms in that time as for your Chelsea mates laughing well thats bullshit because we done them on numerous occasions so theyre like you either in denial or you werent there just a keyboard warrior. Some younger ones may think never a female hooligan those that were there at the beginning circa 1980 may remember me if you got a smack its 40 odd years now so no grudges lol Im 57 and still a casual/ dresser football hooligan will take the 5th if asked buy old bill. Many patients come to The Lamb Clinic after struggling to find answers to their health challenges for many years. Hooliganism was rife in British football in the 1970s and 1980s, a period in which many clubs had at least one firm. And as 4 the photos? Many don't go to the game because they can't get membership or are banned, but they still attach themselves. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Most of the time, the top boys were also the best dressed, setting the agenda for the rapidly moving world of casuals fashion. Everyone is encouraged to see their own healthcare professional to review what is best for them. The Gooners were known as a violent football hooligan firm, who were mainly active within the 1980s. [1] The Herd are a hooligan gang. You get given the dates every August and you have to wait months, counting off the weekends. Wally says: "There used to be instances before where you could get arrested on the morning of a match and be out by kick-off with a 50 fine and a slap on the wrist. The war chant was EIE (the cue to steam in) sometimes followed by She wore,she wore,she wore a yellow ribbon.The Gooners were seriously underestimated in the early to mid 80s because the fv at Highbury had died down from 1975-1980,before 1975 Arsenal and West ham were the top mobs in the country, but the Arsenal resurgence begun in 1980 and we had a regular 100-150 lads in the clockend who went home and away,we had some mad times them days,as well as the regular fighting a lot of us were also robbing anything and everything anywhere we got an opportunity from the west end to Luxumberg and Italy,smash and grabs from jewellers was a good un,Regent st,Watford high st and Blackstock road jewellers all had their displays caved in with car batteries and the contents liberated.Every item of clothing I wore in the 80s was nicked too-it all came free for me from up west!.Some of us went in to serious crime in the following years,then the rave scene came along and some of us got involved in that as well. He says: "The number of incidents has gone up and so are our prosecutions. horde of fans have been handed prison sentences and banned from football after a violent clash between Arsenal and West Ham supporters at a north London pub. The local pub has gone, the community has gone, all youve got is your firm and its only another firm that can understand that. For example Dainton Connell (aka Denton The Bear Connell) was considered to be a folk hero by large sections of the Arsenal fans, however he unfortunately died in a car crash back in 2007, it was approximated that around 3000 mourners showed up to the funeral. Yeah we knew the names of the main bods but didnt know em. The top mob was the Clockend,thats who everyone knows and remembers,not some divs in the north bank from the home counties,is that who you mean by saying 99% of the top boys are missing? [1] He left school at 16 and became a scaffolder. This is the profile of the 21st-century football hooligan, a breed of "fan" who, although decreasing in numbers and visibility, is recognised by the football authorities and police as never having gone away. Sign up for exclusive newsletters, comment on stories, enter competitions and attend events. It's possible to advertise on our website. Tables, chairs and bottles were hurled during the melee before police arrived to break-up the carnage. It was a working-class style, a genuine subculture. I must say most of the top boys were not dtupid enough to have thier photos taken at every opportunity like in these pictures do you are wsy offmark and mussing 99 percent of them. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. To have been made. From 74-75 onwards they just disappeared, never worked out why as Arsenal still had a great team. The Herds two most famous clashes were with Millwall fans at Highbury in 1988, in which 41 Millwall hooligans were arrested after fighting in the stands, and with Galatasaray fans in City Hall Square, Copenhagen in 2000. In 1993 police raided his home in Kingsbury, north London, and found "an A to Z of hooligans" in Britain and Europe. A couple of the main firm Arsenal firm are in these pics .Yes well underated .Smashed the yids plenty of times mainly awsy from the grounf just like we done to modt firms up and down the country.I must say we had plenty of small firms mixed intoit and plenty of in fighting . Everyone was over the age of 30, had several children, a Daewoo estate and much nicer clothing than a poxy Tacchini tracksuit ever was. They have played a key role in putting together the six-club coalition. Of course there is a very small minority of individuals who will cause disorder on occasion and we have strong legislation in place to deal with these people. The improvements in stewarding, appropriate policing, state-of-the-art CCTV systems and the efforts of clubs and leagues have added greatly to making football a fan-friendly environment.". From $19.26. He wanted goon squad but that got the big NO. The highs and lows of relegation , promotion fa cup draw and if the team we played would turn out and stories like how youve said like with the 657, under Fives, ICF and Im sure you know but most wont admit it cass will not be remembered as a hooligan just a bloke who did good and wrote books we well I never rated him. From that moment I never trusted the attention seeking glory hunting div, we had our own mob who kept their distance from them attention seekers in fucking loud day glo tennis shirts and we travelled by mini bus and coaches rather than Ds and Millers inter city method of travel,they had it bang on top from day 1 with ob infiltrating and everyone getting nicked every other week.And they never sussed it, outsiders just turning up on there todd every week and no questions asked, bang obvious filth, try doing that over west ham or millwall and you will def get a tug and a broken jaw. WebHe was leader of one of the Arsenal's hooligan firms during the 1980s. ", Fifa's inspectors visit England this week to run the rule over the 2018 World Cup bid. It is probably to do with the fact that West Ham fans hate Tottenham, Chelsea and Millwall so much that they dont have time to hate Arsenal as well. "CCTV evidence led to two of them receiving a 15-month prison sentence, which reflects that the judge has an understanding of the organised pre-planned ferocity of the incident.". Please read this section carefully. Cue a lorralorra people talking shite about something they know nothing about irl. I know what happened i was there . Personnaly I dodged em. "Those involved in the worst of the disorder are now facing lengthy custodial sentences and this should serve as a warning to other fans that this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated.". The soldiers - who call themselves Gooners, the nickname for Arsenal fans - rang the Leeds thugs from a bar in Lens to suggest they help them target Turks in a pan-British revenge mission in Copenhagen. WebOne Arsenal hooligan with a history of organising trouble is a close ally of a prominent Chelsea 'headhunter' who has a horrendous record of violence. Huge security will surround this week's match. The ICF ended up running the pirate radio acid house station, Centre Force. Gotta go with it. The Gooners were a violent football hooligan firm mainly active in the 1980s and 1990s. Terms and conditions for the use of this DrLamb.com web site are found via the LEGAL link on the homepage of this site. Less than a fortnight ago, Danny Scriven, a 26-year-old postman, and 21-year-old Kali Hagenstede two members of the Tottenham firm the Yid Army were jailed for 15 months and given six-year banning orders (keeping them away from football matches) for being part of a 20-strong mob that smashed up The George, a pub in Holloway used by Arsenal's firm the Herd, after Spurs lost the north London derby last October. If you knew the score back then as you claim to youd know thwre was loads of little firms down tottenham back then. By clicking Sign up you confirm that your data has been entered correctly and you have read and agree to our Terms of use, Cookie policy and Privacy notice. "You might get a situation where Arsenal risk supporters sit in a pub near a stadium, then they might meet at a transport hub say King's Cross for northern teams in the hope that, even if it's a CCTV-dominated area, we're just not going to find out about it.". Smashed it lad if you know you know the clown youve just shown up aint been in a proper firm we never had top boys at Leeds I the 80s no phones so it was word of mouth but if you recognised the faces next to you and no matter how many of usvtheyd stand against anyone in crew neck and samba or an Arnani t shirt and trimm trabb..misspent youth not ! Arsenal fans Charlie Barker, 22, of Redhill Street, King's Cross, Jack Bulley, 23 of Wanstead Park Road, Ilford, and 43-year-old Lee Bowering, of Percy Road, Romford, all pleaded guilty. They were sentenced on January 11 to six months, suspended for 18 months, and ordered to pay 500 costs. This account already exists. Ive only read a few books but if you were there you know never saw any girl at it so its from the 80s the Attire home and away the camaraderie the scams the taking the pi*s out of the old bill. Take the funeral of Dainton The Bear Connell in 2007, security man for the Pet Shop Boys and a top boy in Arsenals firm. Ipswich away climbed up the roof and p.ssed on them home fans . His funeral was held at the Mary Magdalene Church in Holloway Road and was attended by 3,000 people, including Janet Street-Porter, former Arsenal players Ian Wright and Lee Dixon, comedians Matt Lucas and David Walliams, artist Sam Taylor-Wood and boxer Frank Bruno. And we must remember that an Arsenal fan was stabbed to death near Arsenal tube after a game against West Ham at Highbury in the Eighties. The Football Association will hand out a fine to tick a box and, in a few weeks, we will pretend it never happened, boast how England has the best League in the world, while putting our noses up to the likes of Italy and judging them for hooliganism. Its all a far cry from the 1970s and 1980s terrace battles or pitch invasions, when rival supporters in tightly organised gangs and sometimes with professional calling If they were to fight in a pub and it was captured on CCTV I can identify individuals.". On January 13 at Blackfriars Crown Court, they were each given football banning orders ranging from five to eight years and prison sentences totalling nine-and-a-half years. The place was a Helmand Province of a football destination. You can buy a pill or a line any time you want, but imagine if you could only take them twice a season. City boy and Millwall fan Gary, who has been in rehab for five years coming off the cocaine and the booze agrees, and says that giving up fighting is the hardest thing of all. But I would say the Herd for gathering together all those rival British firms for that surprise attack at the battle of Copenhagen. You ask any ex-hooligan what the best drug theyve ever used is and I guarantee they will say football violence.. Gooners pay tribute to fan who became folk hero, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dainton_Connell&oldid=1101792330, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 1 August 2022, at 21:04. A Home Office spokesperson says: "The strategy works well and there has been no significant English football violence overseas since Euro 2000. By CarlosMerch. The 80s is when it mattered, the classic years, and your day had gone,we were on the up and you couldnt touch us. A glance on internet chat forums and social-media sites offers evidence that many clubs' gangs still exist throughout the Premier League, Football League and even in the non-League pyramid. British police 'spotters' will alert their Danish colleagues to known hooligans, while the Danes have pledged to ban any fan without a ticket from entering the country. As for Denton being our leader us lot never trusted or rated the ex yid, saw him on his arse that many times ,granted he did have some bottle but hed swerve a straightener with anyone half tasty.He used to intimidate idiots with his size and mouth but it backfired on him many times, he was a bully simple as that,when he tried it on with top boys over West ham, Leeds, Mancs, Everton, Boro, Leicester and even Luton ffs! When he says Millwall vs West Ham, hes not talking about the teams on the pitch, hes describing the hooligan clash. The best times were when we were a small tight knit firm like in these photos,going away to Boro & Liverpool 80 handed for a night game and doing what we wanted,blades bottles anything went and hardly anyone used to get nicked for the bad tear ups cos they all took place away from ob,scousers & mancs getting run everywhere and pinged on their own turf,and getting it again when they come down here trying to sneak back into Euston through the back streets of Somers town,always an ambush waiting for them and they got terrorised,no won some lost some about it,you got fucking mullered every time,great times. In 1977, he gained public attention after appearing in a television documentary presented by Janet Street-Porter about skinheads. Some believe it was inevitable. Most of the terraces would be casuals, explains Banno, a leading member of Arsenals hooligan firm The Herd. There are only a handful of faces I can think of who were properly at it missing from these pics so I dont really know what you are on about Pigs ears. Now to my point. Although The Herd was mainly considered to be a hooligan gang, a few members were not physically violent. Had to share with my ICF and Chelsea mates, they pissed themselves aswell. I have some who are in their sixties and might earn 100,000 a week in the City. There were 48 arrests, and 60 people thrown out of the ground. Unlike you who seems to b telling us that you done everyone. Arsenal very well respected in the 80s. Old photos from a day out taking in the beauty spots of Runcorn, North Allerton and Goodison! Although The Herd back in the earlier days were known as a violent football hooligan firm that had the have the distinctive war-cry E-I-E. The term E-I-E may also mean Every Idiot Enjoys, none of the stories have been confirmed as of yet. He recalled attending Arsenal matches in the mid-70s when the most notorious Highbury hooligan was Johnny Hoy. Six-feet-two and around 200 pounds, Hoy was an astute rabble rouser who organized Arsenal fans to fend off rival firms who tried to make inroads on the Highbury terraces. Haha ok then. Ive waited 40 years with being female, kids, career to do a book but mine isnt about Leeds its stories all of which I was involved in or organised not a spotter and run away girls I would be at the front of our firm now all the wannabees writing books claiming to be top boys etc have calmed down. Were all the underground has got left, Banno shrugs. It was very rare that anyone brought a camera to a game back then,these are probably the only photos that exist from the glory years and the main faces are well represented here. We look out for each other.". Who is brave enough to ID the origins of the creation of the name Yids? Try 30. Fighting spilled on to the road and Paul Dineen, a 41-year-old Arsenal fan was stabbed. The Herd had a few main rivals back in the day of football hooliganism and still in the present day, these are the Tottenham Hotspurs Yid Army, West Hams ICF, Chelseas Headhunters and Millwalls F-Troop (now known as the Millwall Bushwackers). WebBy Jamesf37. Regardless of those that come along. Firm members and the firm itself are sometimes known as the Men in Black, due to the My Lancashire colleague knows who they are and I asked about Arsenal's risk supporters' intentions. He was leader of one of the Arsenal's hooligan firms during the 1980s. With the European Championship in Poland coming up, I fear what may happen. "We class ourselves as family. Reservations are accepted at Matt the Millers Tavern via Open Table. On the eve of the new football season this moved the BTP to announce a crackdown on troublemakers and a determination to issue more banning orders. About 20 of them went to our risk pub, which is normally frequented by our hooligans, and attacked normal Saturday night punters. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. As acid house spread through the UK in 1988 and 1989, football firms became more interested in raving than rucking. Football firms were (and still can be) sprawling groups comprising hardcore hoolies as well as plenty of softer-core members more interested in the clothes and the music the casuals. They've read the books, want to buy the clothes and they've heard the reputations of their dads and uncles.". Get involved in exciting, inspiring conversations. They have been involved in several outbreaks this season, including fighting at both north London derbies against arch-rivals Tottenham Hotspur. And even more coroagous? [citation needed] Dainton Connell (aka Dainton "The Bear" Cornnell) was considered a folk hero by many Arsenal fans, but died in a car crash in 2007, with 3,000 mourners attending his funeral including several ex players. It was apparently said by a Gooner when another teams firm was coming towards them. The Gooners were a violent football hooligan firm mainly active I'm honestly trying to decide if Proper Fruitloop is the worst poster on this site, or if S&W and Maradonaitis positions are safe. The first hurdle after the tube was the Queens, a drinking den inhabited by West Hams nastiest nutters and it was a case of eyes down, march on and try at least to avoid a beating before you got near the ground and queued to get in.That done (and there was never any guarantee that the East End loons wouldnt sup up and pick out visiting supporters before returning to their drinks) the next step was to avoid being battered as you lined up to get in the South Bank. thats about how I felt, Made my day finding this ..not the original peice.. Total bolloks but the comments are mint..only found out a few years back that Denton had passed away hed been talking about me haha hard to forget..Arsenal had a handy mob and would always turn up at K.Cross after the game aswell..If you are a young one you wont remember me but we had some good rows in the 80s especially before the Old Bill had a clue..great night in 80s night match midweek, our tag -alongs got off at Arsenal tube we got off before..but after the game West Ham had turned up and were at the end of the street not usual for them..and never saw Arsenal in full length Tacchini or Ellesse trackies like the Yids looking stupid..angie Leeds united. The Gooner, as the story goes, had a mouthful of pie or something at the time and he was trying to say here they are but it came out sounding like E.I.E instead. With Euro 2012 on the way, the papers are full of panicky stories about the Polish authorities combing hooligan databases, neo-Nazi groups ambushing peaceful fans and riots stopping games. Hes not alone. The kids were scared with them being eight and five because they have never experienced anything like that before.. How about when we hit the Bull in 83 ?, Hawkins, Salmons & Richmond firm getting smashed all over the north bank the same day, fighting each other to get out ?, then run all the way back to Nam and smashed again-was you there, doubt it.Forget the 70s-not my era and everyone looked a cunt in flares , perms and donkey jackets, no one putting any dough up for 70s fv films, I wonder why ?!. As for the comment that the Gooners gave West Ham, Chelsea and Tottenham a slap, hilarious. The Lamb Clinic provides a comprehensive assessment and customized treatment plan for all new patients utilizing both interventional and non-interventional treatment methods. Scroll down to select your location and preferred date/time. But this time round the difference is that its not English fans expected to cause the trouble, its Poles and Ukranians. 2023 GRV Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved. "Fifa are mature and sophisticated enough to look at the big picture, not just pick up on isolated incidents because they don't reflect the behaviour of football fans in stadiums," he says. Are you mad, Arsenal used to take massive mobs from the early 80s to Spurs, you couldnt touch us on the high road after the games. The greatest film. There have been years when Ive been trying to wind it down Im a respectable man but we were at the Emirates and Id gone to watch the football and youve got 57,000 pissed-off home fans and 3,000 delirious Tottenham rivals. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. [2] During the 1980s, Connell was highly active in an Arsenal FC's hooligan "firm" and was a "main face" amongst the ranks. Theyll have contacts in the music industry, membership of private clubs and a decent pension plan. Charlie wouldnt be intimidated by the hatchet men of the day You can opt-out at any time by signing in to your account to manage your preferences. We don't want that disease returning. When they were 20-30 handed and getting run everywhere in Boro, Manchester or Merseyside us older lot used to watch from a distance or from our mini bus and laugh at them , wed find our own battles away from them busy loud cunts and the ob and then slip away with no one none the wiser. These days football violence is more likely to be meted out by successful media types, bankers and businessmen than rangy kids from council estates. But the spate of recorded incidents since May and ongoing intelligence work by the authorities indicate the police still have a big job on their hands every week. Never been near hertford so your little dig means fuck all to me. Never hears anyone calling them the herd till this year just laughed theres gooners and just Arsenal fans, Ive seen Denton go on his arse a few times. Precisely how active they are is difficult to gauge. Mind you, The Gooners weren't shy of a little cobble action either. The toilet below the away section was shared with West Ham and I saw many an altercation down there. Each email has a link to unsubscribe. Was with docker that day man utd away when he came up with name gooners. As for the other div on here-we didnt run from Wall, Chelsea or West Ham in the 80s,we give it to them all, whats your story ? Was I involved? If you do not agree with these terms and conditions, please disconnect immediately from this website. The gooners never went to the lane and batter anyone. Its an addiction just like alcohol, drugs and fags, he explains. [6] He also provided additional vocals on "One and One Make Five" on their 1993 album Very. Liverpool always had it with Arsenal more than any other London mob. Those mischievous Hammers under the guise of the ICF and the Under-5s would take great joy in terrorising away fans who thought it a good idea to turn up at Upton Park and have the temerity to cheer on their side.Sure, the Arsenal boys had their own response to the West Ham mobs (Danny Miller and a few of his lot infamously took liberties in the Boleyn seats one year) but even scarfers and ordinary fans such as myself were subject to the hostilities. The soldiers are Arsenal fans in a regiment stationed in the South-West and have caused problems at some of the London side's recent European games. England's main rivals in the bidding process are Russia, where football hooliganism is a far bigger problem. But this time round the difference is that its not English fans expected to cause the,! You, the Gooners never went to our risk pub, which is normally by. 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